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This house especially. >> your reaction to how it will play out? i assume hillary clinton will be a bread and butter democrat. that's what my hope is. i can't write her script. i have been pushing the president in this direction. as head of the infrastructure push. it took him a while to get into it. we have to keep him up there. be a builder. be robert moses. do something. >> absolutely. the chamber of commerce and the aflcio that could barely agree today is tuesday agreed to raise the gas tax. it was last increased 21 years ago. does anybody think they could have gone 21 year s without a rai...

Are. we want the trajectory is just as it happened with medical care part d which speaker boehner said was horrendous in its rollout but now the extreme success of it, you don't hear anybody talking negatively about medicare part d. >> apples and oranges. >> others talking negatively about romney care. although romney distanced himself. >> david -- >> point made. >> david -- david, putting pigs aside and talking about the marketplace, what about the fact that for insurance companies, there is a user fee. a 3% tax. that will be passed on to the consumer. everybody that signs on to obamacare hav...

>> well, i think david is right about the fact that it's not going to cripple the economy. the economy is doing quite well. we've seen a lot of green chu shoots, could see a lot more. obamacare wasn't around in 2009 so a lot of democrats who support this or quote that very often as any politician would, it's a number that favors them but what happens was the slowing economy curbed health care costs. about 80% of that studies has shown has nothing to do with obamacare whatsoever. you are seeing a lot of taxes here. 3.5 user fee from insurance companies to be on healthcare.gov but the 2% tax, yo...

You are going to realize there were 13 new taxes in 2013 alone. we are talking about increasing dividends, medicare, payroll taxes, you name it, you were clobbered in 2013. you will sit down and do that, mentally you are already psyched out about what's going to happen about 2014. plus you have the obamacare fees that are going to hit coming in 2014. everyone is going to just be thinking about these things all day, all along, that's going to hurt consumer spending, it's certainly going to make you not want to get out there and boost the economy. >> we're just learning about some of these fees....

People wanted. that's the way compromise and common ground works. >> another criticism from the left. this package does not include closing a single tax loophole but it would increase tsa feels that all americans face. so how would you respond to a critics the next time you're at a town hall in wisconsin that says why are you in favor by any other name. >> a user fee. >> pretend i'm joe blow. >> a ten-year wisconsinite and i'm in a town hall meeting. before 9/11, the person getting on an airplane paid for all their security when they paid for their ticket. they covered all of it. since 9/11 th...