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Was told he needed to work for. no, these are great americans doing the right thing. i wish everybody would take heed to what they have said. >> the courage to come forward. risk your job. takes tremendous strength to do that. do you have faith that the va now is taking care of these problems, that they are ready to make sure veterans are getting the care that they deserve? >> i'm not going to have faith until we are absolutely sure every single veteran has gotten an appointment. one thing she talked about. not just prit marthe primary cas the con sults. i think we will find a huge backlog wit...

What they do, they got to get to the stem and root just like cancer that my dad, my pop, my husband's father died of, they got to get to the root. they got to fire everybody, hold them accountable, fix the va now right this minute. >> send them to jail. >> in handcuffs. >> and arrest. >> thank you so much for being here. i'm very sorry for your loss. >> thank you very much. while shinseki may have stepped down. my next guest doesn't believe his resignation will solve the problems with the va and says fixing this mess ultimately falls on president obama. joining me now is utah senator mike le...

What they do, they got to get to the stem and root just like cancer that my dad, my pop, my husband's father died of, they got to get to the root. they got to fire everybody, hold them accountable, fix the va now right this minute. >> send them to jail. >> in handcuffs. >> and arrest. >> thank you so much for being here. i'm very sorry for your loss. >> thank you very much. while shinseki may have stepped down. my next guest doesn't believe his resignation will solve the problems with the va and says fixing this mess ultimately falls on president obama. joining me now is utah senator mike le...

>> no matter what they do, they have to get to the stem and root just like cancer that my dad, my pop, my husband's father died of. they have to get to the root. they have to fire everybody, hold them accountable, fix the va now right this minute. >> sally, deborah, thank you so much for being here. i'm very sorry for your loss. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. my next guest does not believe his resignation will solve the problems with the va. fixing this mess ultimately falls on obama. joining me now is utah senator mike lee. you did not call for shinseki to step down. do you agree tha...

Just can't get over it. >> good morning, everyone. a lot going on this morning. welcome to "early start." i'm john berman. >> i'm christine romans. it's may 29th, 5:00 a.m. on the nose. the white house says veterans affairs secretary eric shinseki is on "thin ice," and many more lawmakers, including democrats, are calling for his resignation after the va's own inquiry substantiated what we first discovered in a cnn investigation, that waiting lists were manipulated at va facilities in phoenix, delays cnn found could possibly have led to dozens of deaths. the va now says some 1,700 veterans i...