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Can that change the culture? the va right now really is -- there are so many problems that have lined up there, the department doesn't appear they can solve this because of that culture. congress' answer to this is to spend tens of billions a year basically to shift the patients, veterans, from the va to private care to try to kick the va into gear but second of all to get them out of the va so they can get care somewhere else. that tells you how difficult it is for the va to solve their own problems whether it's giving folks job back or transferring them back to regular jobs, va needs to unde...

Execution the administration uses from everything, the va to the irs. should they have known about this? >> they certainly don't know anything. i think that's another subject for a legitimate congressional investigation. nonpartisan, to be sure. if the intelligence community thought this was coming and the white house didn't pay attention, that's very serious indeed. i think it's just part of the only bah ma administration's s disinclination to pay attention to america's national security around the world. this is just the most recent in a long list, sadly. >> well, you know, and the takedown ...

Execution the administration uses from everything, the va to the irs. should they have known about this? >> they certainly don't know anything. i think that's another subject for a legitimate congressional investigation. nonpartisan, to be sure. if the intelligence community thought this was coming and the white house didn't pay attention, that's very serious indeed. i think it's just part of the only bah ma administration's s disinclination to pay attention to america's national security around the world. this is just the most recent in a long list, sadly. >> well, you know, and the takedown ...

Seen it coming or is just the execution the administration uses from everything, the va to the irs. should they have known about this? >> they certainly don't know anything. i think that's another subject for a legitimate congressional investigation. nonpartisan, to be sure. if the intelligence community thought this was coming and the white house didn't pay attention, that's very serious indeed. i think it's just part of the only bah ma administration's s disinclination to pay attention to america's national security around the world. this is just the most recent in a long list, sadly. >> wel...

Giving you the appointment for your father-in-law and it came too late. >> yes, december 6th they called me up and said, hi, may we speak to thomas breen. who's calling? they said the va hospital, well, i'm his caretaker and i can medically -- power of attorney, whatever have you, i can speak to you. we're trying to set up an appointment. i flipped up. he was dead already. he was dead already. here's for the whole news, you know what's really sad? the saddest thing is after all of this, on the news, channel 10, andrew came to my house and put on the news a few months ago, i called the va to ha...