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Courier, which ultimately led to the shooting and the killing of bin laden. and not just khalid sheikh mohammed, but also al libby, he was also subject to very intense interrogation in europe, i believe in 2005, and he also gave us information. so i think it's fair to say that it was a long road to getting bin laden. but the first major steps on that road resulted from the interrogation, very intense interrogation, of khalid sheikh mohammed and al libby. i do support it, and i'm only speaking for myself now when i say this, but i think it was the moral thing to do. i'm not defending it, i'm ac...

To the distinction in a minute of khalid sheikh mohammed in guantanamo bay may have led to information which led to the determination of bin laden's courier, and therefore, bin lad laden. do you believe that's what's happened? and if you believe that's the case, do you believe that vindicated the interrogation methods like waterboarding? >> i don't consider it torture, i consider it enhanced interrogation. but from my understanding, speaking to people who are very much involved, khalid sheikh mohammed was waterboarded. obviously, not in guantanamo. it happened in europe at a site in europe. he...

I consider it enhanced interrogation. but from my understanding, speaking to people who are very much involved, khalid sheikh mohammed was waterboarded. obviously, not in guantanamo. it happened in europe at a site in europe. he was waterboarded and after the waterboarding was finished, he did give us information on the courier. that's the first significant information we had on the courier, which ultimately led to the shooting and the killing of bin laden. and not just khalid sheikh mohammed, but also al libby, he was also subject to very intense interrogation in europe, i believe in 2005, an...

This information, when we talked about khalid sheikh mohammed, he was waterboarded 183 times, and apparently the information he gave about the courier was actually false. so how effective is it? >> no, i've spoken to people on the ground, people who were involved in that, and that was the first significant information they got, was from khalid sheikh mohammed, and from al libby. that's what started the process going, which much more information obviously gained later on, part of a very long process. osama bin laden was killed. but we would not have gotten there, i don't believe, if we would no...

Detainees but i'm also saying that you know, debate about whether -- whether we would have got the same information through other approaches i think is always going to be an open question. >> here is what jose $who rant cia's counterterrorism center when top al qaeda leaders underwent torture under bush said information provided by khalid shaikh mohammed and abu far reek al libby who was the courier was the information that eventually led to the location of bin laden's compound and the information that led to his death. there we have the guy, rodriguez, credible or not as a person reporting on...