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Outrageous thing to say. >> i'm not saying that, kristin. leader of the city to help create an environment behavior. >> that's ridiculous. >> no one has ever killed a cop before? come on. no police officer has ever been killed under the leadership of other people. >> hold on, we he have the complis commissioner saying literally that the deaths of those two police officers are a direct spinoff of some of the commentary that comes from the likes of al sharpton and mayor bill de blasio. al sharpton was calling for protests. bill de blasio said press. >> there is a big difference between protestin...

New york woe practice free speech. every single new yorker is hurt by this. >> scottie nell, in new york, you can do that, can you can get a permit to do that i don't think these people are getting permits to shut down these streets and frankly the bridges and tunnels which could be dangerous. >> you are completely correct, eric it is getting dangerous. here is the question. silence in this case is just as convicting as those that are speaking out. you don't hear the people like al sharpton or jesse jackson sitting there saying hey, guys we want these people protest. don't do any acts of viole...

Their core, at the progressive core of barack obama eric holder lies this same belief. aren't they race baiting? >> that's exactly my point. >> they're race baiting, are they not? >> the only voices that al sharp -- i mean, obama and eric holder, the voices they don't regard as more important than their own, they regard racial divisiveness, they love them. >> that's what they -- >> that's what i'm saying. >> you're saying they like this divisiveness? >> they love this. look at jeremiah wright. >> look at this, the two incidents that this is all about were not racially incident, one was punchin...

As we said, they're the ones who run into a building on fire when everybody is running out. and if you reiterate that and you balance it, i think that would have made a difference. and i think that's what was missing, the lack of balance, and that's why i think the police in new york city, for example, were so upset. it looked as if the mayor was saying i'm with the demonstrators, i support the grievance, i believe it, and that expressed a lack of confidence and support for his own police department. >> charles, there's no question that al sharpton is a race baiter. he makes a living off more ...

Themselves and enforce the laws, this was inevitable. >> do you believe this was inevitable? >> it was the perfect storm. at a certain time, you have the president and the attorney general and the mayor. all turning against cops. cops are apprehensive to do their job. now coming out and making their statements. deblasio was brought on his hands and al sharpton is the who started this justice for all rally. that was in brooklyn and the shooting is in brooklyn. two dead cops. where does the new york city pd go from here? >> what is the police department going do? >> they are sacrificing their li...