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Change of name that changes the perception? i don't know. i can't imagine malaysia not having a flag carrier, so i guess the question is, there will be some sort of malaysian airline in the future, and what will it be named. >> yeah, value jet after it crashed had a different name. this goes less to the carrier than the air safety regulators. there was a warning for flights above eastern ukraine up to 32,000 feet, and it was flying at 33,000 feet. >> in retrospect, i find troubling it was announced russia closed the air route which would have been the continuation of the air route this flight ...

Real tick. they heard the pings, one for two hours and then went back and heard the second one for 13 minutes. now, either the boxes and the bat tri, itself, is starting to the wane at this pointer or it was a false positive if you will, which we have had in the pa past. so it is really hard to determine at this point. >> and i do wonder, though, and i tend to find myself identifying with the families, we have heard so many times that this is the latest best piece of information, and hopes keep getting raised and dash and then all of us hope that these are indeed the black boxes and leading to...

Course, to get the actual assets that have the side scan s.o.n.a.r. and these deep sub messables that can actually then confirm. they have cameras on them. they can use the side scan s.o.n.a.r. to actually map the bottom of the ocean so we can see really where the debris field is. and then once that takes place, then determine the best course of action to try and find where the cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder may be. the one thing about this is that those pingers are mounted on the head of each of those boxes. that is, they're only held on by brackets. and in the past exper...

Families here. what about that? >> well, depends on what ultimately is determined to be the cause. if there is no cause ever found, then they will receive the compensation from the airlines, such as workers' comp or whatever the airline compensation is. if the cause were to be determined to be something other than the carrier, such as a mechanical or some outside force or, don't forget, the shipper and the batteries. if the shipper would be liable, that would be like value jet. the pilots and flight attendants, the crew can recover just like anyone else against those entities. >> all right. ma...

The senses and the entire range of options to deal with. value jet in the united states showed the absolute devastating deadly nature of a fire in the cargo hold. >> i don't envision 239 people passing out at the same time. the pilots are trained in a decompression or anything that might compromise the oxygen supply. the first thing they do is put on the oxygen masks and they put it on themselves and start dealing with the emergency. >> when you are exposed to something you shouldn't be dealing. were you ever worried about the cargo you were transporting some. >> they will know the cargo they ...