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>> well, you know, he has shown over and over again that he will shift based on whatever audience he is talking. to i've said before i feel like he is just selling trump stakes everywhere he goes. and i think that's basically what he does here. he comes up with techniques based on what he thinks is going to indicator to a particular audience. unfortunately a lot of evangelicals buy into it. they accept what he is saying as an accurate portrayal of his inner beliefs. i'm not going to pass judgment on his faith. if he says he is a christian, i'll believe it. but i will say a lot of people had a ...

Become a secular party. it has become a party. >> outside of fo african-americans. >> yes. it also other than a couple prayers at the convention every four years that's it. the thing is a lot of americans and a lot of these voters out in sort of real america where i grew up and okay, sort of where you grew up, these are people with a different value structure. and they don't recognize where the democratic party has become. >> joining us now from dallas to analyze former trump campaign national spokesperson can a karina pierson and here in new york janey zano political science professor at iona...

The democratic party has become a secular party. it has become a party. >> outside of fo african-americans. >> yes. it also other than a couple prayers at the convention every four years that's it. the thing is a lot of americans and a lot of these voters out in sort of real america where i grew up and okay, sort of where you grew up, these are people with a different value structure. and they don't recognize where the democratic party has become. >> joining us now from dallas to analyze former trump campaign national spokesperson can a karina pierson and here in new york janey zano political ...

>> outside african-americans. >> yes. that's the one. >> where they are not. >> almost other than a couple of prayers at the convention, that's it. the thing is a lot of americans and a lot of these voters out in real america where i grew up and okay, sort of where you grew up. these are people with a different value structure. and they don't recognize where the democratic party has become. >> what's funny is that before this election, rural america said this is not my country. after it's coastal america said this is not my country. yes, the democrats are, but the republicans have a problem to...

Close friend all the way until he died. he was very conscious, i think, of both jfk and rfk and that legacy and wanting to fulfill it. in the process, of course, he created a legacy of his own that's probably unequalled by any senator in modern history. when you look at what he did, so much of it is rooted in the same basic value structure, in the same dream, the same ideal of america. the sanctions against south african apartheid. which he steered through the congress in the late 1980s. are directly related to the civil rights work that was done in the early '60s when president kennedy became...