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>> i would not advocate we put a muslim, i absolutely don't agree with that. >> those comments from nbc's "meet the press" igniting major controversy. some calling on carson to drop out of the presidential race. a spokesman for carson says is he not backing down. earlier today, carson's business manager told cnn's there's no reason to apologize because the republican candidate was voicing what he believes. >> he's thinking like someone who loves america first, who wants to protect america. he understands there are tenets of islam that hates jews, will kill homosexuals, will kill muslims, do no...

Father jonathan morris and todd starnes. do you see what the ramifications of all this. can you name a society before that has established a new definition of marriage and do you not see this come in conflict between religious constitution and nose thatthose that are going to claim the religious systems will have to change their value systems or else they'll not be able to operate. >> what the supreme court has done is say that individuals have a right to marry regardless of their sexual orientation. >> but the churches have the right -- >> religion cannot -- >> you're not answering my questio...

Father jonathan morris and todd starnes. do you see what the ramifications of all this. can you name a society before that has established a new definition of marriage and do you not see this come in conflict between religious constitution and nose thatthose that are going to claim the religious systems will have to change their value systems or else they'll not be able to operate. >> what the supreme court has done is say that individuals have a right to marry regardless of their sexual orientation. >> but the churches have the right -- >> religion cannot -- >> you're not answering my questio...

Did whatever we had to do. i pray to god until the we do whatever we have to do. and the notion it somehow makes america less great is asinine and dangerous. >> does it make america less great? >> well, america has its value systems and people and other people from around the country look at it really as the shining light of democracy of human rights, et. cetera. so of course we've seen over time that image is tarnished because of the things that happened included this torture by the cia. i want to remind you that this was done by the cia our military did not do this. they used the normal mili...

And that the -- all levels of political leadership were getting this intelligence and in many cases asking for more intelligence. they knew this program was going on. now, what specifically they were being told? these were in closed-door briefings. don't know if they didn't felt they were being given enough. if they later learned other details. when you look at this in history, after this came back, and i think i -- i was struck by what luke russert had to say with the speech that's going to be remembered, it's going to be john mccain's speech. that was a strong moment there. but when you look...