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It's harmful to our image. and indeed it would put our own military at risk. are we suggesting that we would allow one of our soldiers to be this is a political act. it's ill thought out. it's harmful to our image. and indeed it would put our own military at risk. are we suggesting that we would allow one of our soldiers to be stripped naked and shot dead while being interrogated? so we've got a real problem with the president's publicly stated values system. >> other than getting individuals out of legal jeopardy, who would it help? >> well, you make a good point, by the way. that navy chief ...

Values system. >> other than getting individuals out of legal jeopardy, who would it help? >> well, you make a good point, by the way. that navy chief s.e.a.l., the allegations are horrendous. he's not yet gone to trial, so he is presumed innocent. by the way, if he accepted that pardon he'd be acknowledging his guilt in those allegations. i think there's no benefit, no good outcome to the president intervening. a lot of americans support their armed forces, the most respected institution in american society bar none. they don't want them falsely accused. so there may be, you know, a dog whist...

Detainees or kill civilians. and if we do, we take action. a jury trial of your combat experience peers. so why mr. trump would intervene in that process which is widely not supported by the military chain in command, i'm positive of that. this is a political act. it's ill thought out. it's harmful to our image. and indeed it would put our own military at risk. are we suggesting that we would allow one of our soldiers to be stripped naked and shot dead while being interrogated? so we've got a real problem with the president's publicly stated values system. >> other than getting individuals out...