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About american values, he confirms it so people can say, well, good, at least we're not playing games anymore. he's being open about the fact that he wants our oil. he's being open about the fact that he doesn't care about human rights, he's sort of ripped that veil off. in a sense where does that leave the world? if the united states doesn't even have that veil of sort of believing in these values because the president of the united states says, you know what, after all i really don't care? >> the world begins to look more like how trump and putin and men like them see it, which is as rotten,...

Because of the fact that it folks fun at d.c. and lifts the veil off of politics. >> let's go with another show. i think "newsroom" is closer to the old model 60 west wing," ted, much more earnest, much more idealistic. >> yeah, but i would say that it is still -- i would still say that aaron sorkin, the creator of this show, is still cynical. i'm going to use that word again, cynical about the news business. i think that he is in his essence, you know, has moments in the show where he is trying to blame the news business for some of the problems, especially this instantaneous cycle we're in. ...

Folks fun at d.c. and lifts the veil off of politics. >> let's go with another show. i think "newsroom" is closer to the old model 60 west wing," ted, much more earnest, much more idealistic. >> yeah, but i would say that it is still -- i would still say that aaron sorkin, the creator of this show, is still cynical. i'm going to use that word again, cynical about the news business. i think that he is in his essence, you know, has moments in the show where he is trying to blame the news business for some of the problems, especially this instantaneous cycle we're in. >> exactly -- >> but the who...

Final memory. >> did you see that exchange? >> i was not there for the event but i actually spoke to the people that were in the area and defused it and did some coverage on it and other mediums. >> you heard a story about whitney houston who was seemingly so elegant and sophisticated and poised having an altercation at an event tells you that maybe something was a little off kilter recently. >> that lined up with "being bobby brown" pulled the veil off of the do he va clive dressed for us. she was elegant and poised but made no mistakes about telling you, i'm a girl from newark, i come from t...

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