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We need to freeze the program. we need to, over time, work towards that denuclearization. >> mr. secretary, you were part of the negotiations for the iran nuclear deal. last week before the united nations the president said the u.s. should be embarrassed by that deal. i'm wondering what your reaction was when you heard that? >> well, once again, inflammatory language does not substitute for diplomacy. let's make it very clear -- the iran agreement, first of all, is a very strong agreement. certainly our european allies have been very clear about that. it accomplished what would not have been a...

Couple of months. it would be too humiliating for the regime. i think in 12 months or so you'll see tentative feelers come out from pyongyang saying we're willing to return to the bargaining table, the six-power talks and we want to discuss verification measures in exchange for economic. >> leland: talking about just how bad the relationship between the united states and russia had gotten. you can speak to this directly. in the sense for so long the past 16 years the u.s. has been training its military for the fight in the middle east and now we're seeing this pivot. pictures coming out from t...

The breakout time from two to three months to at least a year and put in place extraordinary verification measures. so this is a deal built for the long term. iran will have to comply and build confidence in the international community that it is a peaceful program. but we will have a strong verification regime essentially forever. >> secretary ernest moniz, thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. >> joining us now form er senate majority leader -- mitchell, special envoy for middle east peace. senator mitchell, i want to get your reaction to the chairman of the foreign relat...

Market. that's least the rationale they put forward. again, i'm not judging on the wisdom of that. >> secretary moniz, is that the rationale the u.s. team accepted? you have to have a rationale for this being in the deal. >> our rationale -- first of all, one should remember the nonproliferation treaty permits and in some ways encourages the development of peaceful nuclear power programs. in this deal our job was simple. they have a program. we rolled back that program. we guaranteed an extension of the breakout time from two to three months to at least a year and put in place extraordinary ve...

Engaged in this issue and i think it's gone well. i would be happy to go through the four pathways to a weapon in iran. >> please. >> one is plutonium production through a reactor, and there what you really have to know, bottom line is, that we have agreed that they will redesign their reactor to produce far less plutonium, the fuel that contains it, will be sent out of the country anyway. that's blocking. >> there are two involving enrichment, to make enriched uranium for weapons, and there in the agreement, they will dramatically reduce the number of centrifuges that operate. there will be n...