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Thank you jeff and richard for all of that reporting. really appreciate it. maryland democratic senator joins me to discuss all of this. thaupg for joining me. really appreciate it. bottom line, says north korea derstands there needs to be a verification process. he's hopeful they will achieve nuclear disarmament. do you take him at his word or do you think the trump administration is too easer to trump north korea? >> hope does not equal reality. north leaders he wanted to have psaa summit meeting on world stage. they got heaps of praise from

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Looking at these programs, looking at the verification process for entering into these programs, and working on how you go about with these benefits being given out. and i think that giving more of this responsibility to the states, to social workers that are in the counties that know how to verify, know families, know who is truly in need, this is how we are going to get a handle on making certain that the programs and the benefits are going to the people who qualify and who need these benefits. >> julie: here is the problem. a bit of a hiccup. as we know it will be an election year. republic...

As the secretary pointed out, it has a substantial verification process that will extend over a very long period of time, in particular not much mention publicly, a dedicated procurement process which will give inspectors the opportunity to carefully evaluate everything that iran is doing when combined with the inspections. so, it isn't perfect. nothing is in life, and particularly an agreement reached by adversaries after a very lengthy negotiations, but the reality is, the leverage rests entirely with the united states and the allies. lawrence, you didn't ask this, but if i can make a furthe...