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>> i'm following with great -- how can i say? >> attention. >> attention. >> reporter: the smile and the laugh saying a lot there, particularly because officials have said he is not amused by this. he does not find it funny, what's been happening now. there's no doubt when you talk to officials, given how this continues to drag on, with no clear end game in sight to get this over the finish line, at some level all you can really do is laugh. >> the is administration saying anything about potential national security impacts or economic impacts the longer this ogoes on? >> reporter: yeah, it's b...

>> started this a long time ago. >> that's right. >> assuming you have a rational actor sitting across the table from you saying, here's what i offer. what would you like to offer in return? when you say, here's what i have to offer and somebody says, screw you, across the table, you can't really negotiate. that's where we are at some point to. your point, karen, do we actually know the definitive number of people, right? if it's four, five, six, seven, eight? it's a lot of speculation going on. when would kevin mccarthy walk away? we don't know what that number is. if that number is eight peo...

Which was a very good one. the reality is that there is much, much more. just like the police were not forthcoming with the public, for good reason. you want to protect the investigation. i'm sure there's a bevy of other information that may connect him to this days, establish his guilt, and cut out a lot of work for the defense to do in demonstrating he is not guilty. >> is find ago i motive essential for prosecutors? they like to have a story go with evidence. >> there's an important dichbs between intent and motive. you do have to prove intent, which is the person intended to kill. you do n...

Of 2021. >> how did she put that puzzle together? >> person to person, asking people what they needed, what asl asl assurances they needed. she reduced the threshold she needed. she won with 216 votes. the point is, you know, she was a very daft leader. and this is a leadership test for mccarthy. and frankly, he's not doing very well. last thing on this though. we've been beating him up all day because it has been a failure on his part, and he didn't look particularly confident there. when jamie dan gel said, why do people stick with this one man, and when adam said that, the answer is, he's d...

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