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Doing it, selena. >> absolutely, we can go back to john adams and thomas jefferson, they had their own newspapers. >> go ahead, chris. >> it's a big difference, we had a very diverse and free press. now you have a number of media conglomerate that own a significant portion of the major media and i think we have to admit there's been a constant drum beat for the past three or four months against trump and conservatives react to that. a lot of middle americans, this is why he won in places like wisconsin and ohio saying he's so hated by washington, so hated by the media, maybe there's something ...

>> absolutely, we can go back to john adams and thomas jefferson, they had their own newspapers. >> go ahead, chris. >> it's a big difference, we had a very diverse and free press. now you have a number of media conglomerate that own a significant portion of the major media and i think we have to admit there's been a constant drum beat for the past three or four months against trump and conservatives react to that. a lot of middle americans, this is why he won in places like wisconsin and ohio saying he's so hated by washington, so hated by the media, maybe there's something more to this guy. ...

Discussion where there was an opposing viewpoint. he wanted to hear from people who disagreed with him, and competing view points, competing perspectives, and i think that was something he also -- he always valued and i think that's the type of insight he's going to offer to the trump transition team and president-elect trump, some of the policy proposals, particularly in foreign policy and national security to seek out those competing perfectives because the challenges on that front -- on that issue front, are great, and you know hearing from people who have studied about these issues and car...

I think he wants to be a good patriot and a good american and he is asked for help by the president-elect and he is going to meet with him. >> kevin, what do you think of these meetings? >> i think it's a good sign that the trump transition team and president-elect trump are reaching out and getting insight from, you know, forces or voices within the party that may not necessarily agree with them 100%. and nobody better to talk to than governor romney. lonny and i know that governor romney used to admonish us any time somebody was sitting at the table or discussing a policy discussion where th...

For the year after. let me ask you about the news we broke about how mitt romney will be meeting with donald trump this weekend, south carolina governor nikki haley is at trump tower right now. what does this signal to you? >> i think this is a different side of donald trump than we saw during the campaign. i think during the campaign donald trump didn't seem -- i can't think think of many examples where he made friends with people who were opposed to him. he always said he was against you, he was a counterpuncher. that's not the case here. here were two ardent critic, nikki haley, mitt romney...