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Considerable debate about whether that was true or not. >> americans know now what communications are being stored in a data base and that's huge. >> i mentioned reid hastings at the white house. there were ceos there to say we need to have new limits on this surveillance technology. do you see that actually happening? >> to a certain degree they are definitely going to use their lobbying power to do that. it's not that they care about privacy. they don't. >> they want to profit. >> the big thing is they need businesses and other countries and international people to trust them with their data...

Confusion because social science shows that people are not inclined to take a fact check where you are waving your finger saying this candidate or this political leader is wrong. you might process information if it were coming from a trusted source without the finger wagging. what do you make of that? >> i agree with that as perspective. good journalism does that. it creates context for viewing information. much of what is said in politics isn't factually inaccurate. it's misleading. it requires context. sometimes it's deliberately taken out of context. good journalism does that well. your pro...