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Lied and now we know that he was on that video. maggie and paul, that is their best evidence because this is clearly a circumstantial evidence case. but what is also very strong in this case, neil, is the fact that alex murdaugh took the stand and guess what? he lied to the jury itself. he told them about this blue light and that there was this sheriff that allowed and permitted him to have the blue light. the sheriff came in and testified in this case and said alex murdaugh, you are a liar. a damn liar. i never gave you permission to have that light. so what we are left with here in this case...

Listening to that video time stamped on the iphone, placing all three voices in the background, alec, maggie and paul murdaugh's voice is in the background of that video at the kennel placing them together just minutes before two-way cellular activity ceased on maggie and paul's iphones. so the defense pointed out -- the prosecution pointed out in closing arguments, this is not the behavior of an innocent man. the most important piece of information, when did you last see your wife and son alive? that's not something that an innocent man is going to lie about to investigators. >> neil: interes...