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Don't the media have to do some self-reflection here? >> i have always said when i was a journalist back in the day, journalist 101, i would agree with mollie on this, don't faint, mollie, i know, sunday morning, we're agreeing on something. but facts first. facts matter. it's most important. i was always told that a journalist doesn't make themselves the story, they report the facts and then they let the viewers, the readers, the listener form their opinions based on that. we have a blur between opinions and facts now. sadly, that's the world we live in. i want to speak to the politics. it's ...

The basis of it is. >> can i ask you, sir, also, there's been some reporting in the "wall street journal" in particular, and this has become extraordinarily politicized, the origin of the virus itself, the coronavirus, and whether it escaped from a lab in wuhan or had any potentially human fingerprints on it, basically, or was it purely natural? what's your take on the report we're seeing from the journal that some think it's more possible than some had indicated earlier in the year? >> from my standpoint, the evidence is still not strong. i don't discount it entirely. i still think it could b...

Time to do the same thing like waste your time and with your energy and reach their achievements by using this virus. >> they clearly succeeded in doing that, american researcher scientists are not supposed to lie and they did life, all of them lied and i should restate when you first came on, you explained looking at the virus itself, you could tell that this did not emerge from nature, that this was created in a lab. >> yes. what i can also explain to you is the function modification increasing covid-19 virus is

They have enough time to do the same thing like waste your time and waste your energy and they can reach their achievement by using the virus. >> they succeeded in doing that. american researchers scientists public health officials are not supposed to live. they did live, all of them liedd to. without getting all the science, when you first came on you explained and correct me if i'm wrong, looking at the virus itself, you could tell that this did not emerge from nature, that this was created in a lab. >> yes. i can prove it by presenting the weakness and also the intelligence evidence in my p...