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Was basically let's just let this virus rip. this was of course before we had vaccines. basically i'll call them french epidemiologists who really did not have the credentials to be making such a grand sweeping statement or sink just look the virus front of the population and eventually everyone will have had it and we will be okay. hundreds of thousands of people would have died if we had followed that strategy. the basis of pseudoscience that is to be called out. >> downplaying or try to discredit the lab theory from wuhan why spend the time doing that now since the lab leak is a real possib...

Was basically let's just let this virus rip. this was of course before we had vaccines. basically i'll call them french epidemiologists who really did not have the credentials to be making such a grand sweeping statement or sink just look the virus front of the population and eventually everyone will have had it and we will be okay. hundreds of thousands of people would have died if we had followed that strategy. the basis of pseudoscience that is to be called out. >> downplaying or try to discredit the lab theory from wuhan why spend the time doing that now since the lab leak is a real possib...

What we -- the type of data we need to be able to make this decision, we think it's pretty close to being there and would urge them to take a look at. it but your point is exactly right. system is built to be more cautious with young kids and is, it's doing that but we think it's time for us to approach this with a little more urgency. >> listen, i've got to ask you about this, some people saying well, they have a different view on this. author andrew sullivan has a blog called let it rip, how i learned to stop worrying and live with the virus, he's arguing to just let the virus rip, to create...