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This is a type of terrorism. this is inhumane. the atmosphere will change. of course then it can be envisioned and we can talk about many different topics of mutual interest for both sides just as vis-à-vis the nuclear issue in the year 2015 reached an agreement, we can reach agreements on other topics as well. >> it seems for the last year and a half and the us pulled out of the agreement as if iran's policy has been to drive a wedge between the us, donald trump, and europe, which has stood by the agreement. now this week it seems because of the fact iran was responsible for this attack on s...

Freedoms there. he says, oh, he took them apart. what's the risk in that? >> i think there's a broad risk in terms of undermining the media. but i think there's a specific risk of trying to appeal to president trump specifically, which is that trump has insulated himself with a lot of people who agree with him, a lot of people we've seen early in the cabinet who were seen as sort of the bulwark against his tendencies are now gone. there isn't necessarily the same sense that he is surrounded by people who are willing to say, actually, i'm not so sure about that. that has risks of its own. the r...

Which wasn't really on anyone's radar, and very quickly the story moved forward from there. i think it's probably the case people were more willing to open up doors because giuliani had started to spill this of this stuff. >> the problem is he was wrong about a lot of stuff, more so than even in the mueller set of facts and russian interference vis-á-vis the campaign's defenses. that's why we had leschenko on tonight, who was the former parliament member that he was accusing of most of these things. here's the risk analysis on each side as i see it, i want you to take. for the president, the ...

Began. i'm just wondering as we come to an end of what is week one of it because there will be more, do you have a feeling for where we will be next week in this story? >> lawrence, what i can't help but consider as i think about what we've learned vis-à-vis the conversations with the ukrainian president is what the inspector general reportedly told the committee on intelligence on wednesday of this week. seems like an eternity ago, but he told congress then that there were multiple acts involved. this was a pattern, multiple acts at the heart of this whistleblower complaint. now, you could -...

I'm just wondering as we come to an end of what is week one of it because there will be more, do you have a feeling for where we will be next week in this story? >> lawrence, what i can't help but consider as i think about what we've learned vis-à-vis the conversations with the ukrainian president is what the inspector general reportedly told the committee on intelligence on wednesday of this week. seems like an eternity ago, but he told congress then that there were multiple acts involved. this was a pattern, multiple acts at the heart of this whistleblower complaint. now, you could -- one i...