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Presence in the country was undesirable and would not allow him to return to his apartment in moscow. while his personal belongings and work remain very much in russia, david is currently in london where he joins us now, and it's great to have you on the program, david. i want to start with the big issue just to get it out of the way. russia says this visa issue is an issue of your own making, that you brought this on yourself. what's your response to that? >> well, they know that's not true. in fact, they gave the real reason for the expulsion in kiev where a russian diplomat in their embassy...

Consensus around that. number two, enough latitude to accommodate both high skilled workers h1b visa issue is so important but enough in the areas where there are shortages for low skilled workers, as well. a pathway for legal status for those who don't get tote get in the front of line and meet other requirements. making sure we have other protections in the bill and there's another elements for compromise. if any side says it's got to be all my way. >> what about verify? sam, are you a believer that we can have a system given all the electronics this incredible electronics we keep reading ab...

Continue to be frustrated. that is why they need to work to get it resolved with the democrats so the house can deal with it and get a bill done. >> patti ann: you know, speaking of the visa issue, senator rand paul that is one of the problems. some of these visa rules, he thinks a lot of the rules need to be changed so many of these people that are on temporary visas can be allowed to stay here legally. that one of the issues is that the rules are throwing out the wrong people and letting the wrong ones staying? >> i will say if you want stronger enforcement of any kind there had to be a fund...

And here this cut against a narrative that al qaeda was destroyed. they were withered when they were responsible for killing a u.s. ambassador. >> it was before the election, and the white house was concerned, oh, this is going to cascade into some major event. and when you look at the documents, i've looked at some of them. i'm sure you've looked at many more. just an inconsistent policy. they wanted to lowball it and not have a lot of security there. and all the information was, it's a dangerous area. >> senator klobuchar, you're working -- now let's move to immigration -- with marco rubio o...

>> translator: we know that the american administration [ inaudible ]. for the polish people. what are the ideas? when can they come into force? in other words, when people of poland will be able to do shopping at fifth avenue in new york, certainly? second question, how do you see the cooperation in the area of security between poland and america and between america and the european union and my third, last question, is did you talk about political repressions in belarus and the arrest of [ inaudible ]. >> well, i'm going to try to remember all those questions. with respect to the visa issue,...