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On this particular issue republicans do seem to be policing the rhetoric and scared of the image they're putting forward when folks like steve king speak out like that. >> the secret here is even though in that same press conference, part of what you just showed, boehner said this would make it harder to pass immigration reform. in a lot of ways it makes it easier because it helps him define this right flank that's opposed to immigration reform as something that's out of the mainstream. obviously that's not something that the speaker would ever say in public, but you have to remember there is ...

Constituency of the gop. it's coming from agricultural interests. people who are really interested in seeing visa programs passed. there is a lot of support for the various pieces of this bill and boehner, himself, has to walk a very careful tightrope. so in some ways steve king has made his job easier. >> so implicit in that, is teems you're saying boehner is actually to some degree allied with those groups, those business groups, ag groups that want something passed. is that an accurate characterization of boehner? it was a conventional wisdom on him but a lot of people began to think maybe ...

Spokesperson, "it's wishful thinking, frankly, it's not a strategy for getting a bill to the president's desk quochlt you've got one side saying according to senator schumer they're going to pass it, the other side saying no, we're not. >> well, senator schumer may have his predictions and he may have his faith in the house but he's also a senator and not a house member on the republican side. speaker boehner has made it very clear as have other republicans like trey gowdy who we interviewed on "fox news sunday" that they will not take up the senate bill. they're going to follow their own path...

Developing now within minutes they will plan. now in the meantime they were, you might say, slightly upstaged as republican senators jeb sessions of alabama and david vitter of louisiana organized their news conference detailing opposition to the plan. senator sessions already quoted as saying, quote, he's cold front confident the american public will reject it. a 13-year pathway to documented immigrants, $4.5 billion to help secure u.s./mexico border and new visa programs and high and low skilled workers.

What day to talk about these issues that really matter, not only the 6th of november but going to be important going forward for both democrats and republicans. >> jose, let's talk first about the immigration piece because there's been a lot of talk in republican circles about what the party needs to do to increase hispanic electorate. as of recent days we know that republicans on the house are touting support for an immigration bill that effectively focuses on highly educated immigrants. it's a stem science technology, engineering and mathematics visa that targets those who have gotten colleg...