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Dzhokhar tsarnaev was captured. now we know why this was such a heavy-handed raid of an apartment building down there. the fbi really believed dzhokhar was in that apartment. the reason is, is because he shared an actual cell phone with dzhokhar. >> okay, right. >> they shared the same telephone and they were following that phone, so they believed the signal was coming from there, it must have been there. >> i remember our chris lawrence was actually on the campus on that friday and reported on seeing the black hawk helicopter ending and tactical units getting out. that's what that was about. ...

Blackhawk helicopter landing. >> that's what it was all about. local police had no idea the fbi was coming. it was a surprise raid. very heavy handed. those two students are now being held by immigration service on a visa violation. it's odd that they're being held this long. we are being told that that's out of an abundance of caution. there's no connection between these fellas to what happened here on marathon day. they're still being held by their backgrounds. >> fascinating. i want to dig deeper now into the influences on the older and the younger suspect. how they may have become radica...

Was really in that apartment. the reason is is because he shared an actual cell phone with dzhokhar. they shared the same telephone. and they were following that phone. so they believe the signal was coming from there. it must have been there. >> i remember chris lawrence was actually on the campus on friday and reported on seeing the blackhawk helicopter landing. >> that's what it was all about. local police had no idea the fbi was coming. it was a surprise raid. very heavy handed. those two students are now being held by immigration service on a visa violation. it's odd that they're being he...

Americans are the enemy. >> bret: leon that jihadist tie goes back a number of years. >> definitely. ayman zawahiri came to chechnya in 1996 looking for a base for al qaeda. >> bret: zawahiri number 2 in al qaeda. >> at that time, yes. he was put in jail because nobody knew who he was he was put in jail for visa violation. what happened also in 1999 and this came out in the trial of one of the master minds of 9/11 in hamburg the three mastermind pilots of 9/11 traveled to kandahar specifically to train to fight in chechnya. at that time the al qaeda leadership told them we have enough person i...

>> bret: he was questioned and let go. he was not a part of it . there was a story that he was being deported and that the president met with the saudi foreign minister in the white house, but the second saudi student he's not deported . the second saudi student was arrested on a visa violation and overstaying his visa. he may be deported . you have all of the information trying around. two separate people and the f.b.i. saying, whatever you hear. these are the two guys. >> that is important. you can get conspiracy theories and why is there a meeting and all of these are harmful . if the harmf...