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Chain in 2015 i talked about, it's up about adults and bars. people really want to be with people. b i had an interview with the surgeon general, i asked him, what is the most prevalent disease in america? is it heart disease, cancer, he said it is isolation. we live in the most technical logical age. the surgeon general says there are huge numbers of people feeling isolated. i think connecting people with people will be a huge job. >> tucker: may be technology leads to isolation. >> absolutely. >> tucker: it's easy for us, who are thriving, relatively, the people that are displaced by technol...

Jobs? >> it's a bit past my pay grade but i appreciate the dichotomy right now, there is this giant shortage of drivers. they call me all the time sink and we do a program through your foundation that will help get people in our industry? at the same time, you don't really need a crystal ball to see five or ten years down the road, they need drivers. the difference between effectiveness and efficiency and ultimately, sizing yourself right out of the economy. i don't know. i think it's insane to goou backwards. i think always forward make sense and in my littlele foundation, the smartest thing ...

About so many issues that are polarizing and that divide americans, people might have had a really difficult and itha did have difficult personal lives but it was kind of the illusion -- olivia said, acting isl all illusion. it's a game of illusions. there is something to that, a little mystery is nice to have because when you're seeing someone act a role on screen, you don't want think oh gosh, she was doing that rant at the golden globes. you just want to think wow it, she was great. it kind of destroys out a little bit. >> tucker: too much information. didn't eat from the tree of ignorance,...

Should the government actively impede that development the save jobs? >> it's a bit past my pay grade but i appreciate the dichotomy right now, there is this giant shortage of drivers. they call me all the time sink and we do a program through your foundation that will help get people in our industry? at the same time, you don't really need a crystal ball to see five or ten years down the road, they need drivers. the difference between effectiveness and efficiency and ultimately, sizing ourselves het out of the economy. i don't know. i think it's insane to go backwards. i think always forward ...

Eventually when the bottom falls out, it's like "idiocracy." that movie. we don't know how to hang a picture anymore, much less make a car. we can talk about what is best for the consumer, what is best for the worker, it's really hard to do both at the same time. i get it. in this larger sense, i just can't imagine how anybody can look at decisions to bring manufacturing back here and ultimately reward the kind of behavior that i think we all want to encourage. >> tucker: right. you must be sort of for technology, but it's one of the reasons our jobs have left. what should the government's pos...