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The reforms, somebody has to put in reforms. before, chris, mubarak always, you know, when these lectures would come, and i was richard engel's report, he was talking about how egyptians are rolling his eyes. before, he could use israel as a way to keep -- uh yo know, there's that -- that's the alliance, right in the that's the trio. it's israel's only arab ally, really, egypt. the one they can count on when they really absolutely have to. and that's been sort of the alliance there, this little triangle. and whenever mubarak has felt pressure, he can tell the israelis to back up. and that's wh...

Organize themselves and begin to make political change, give people greater freedom and justice, is the president siding with the demonstrators against the government? or is he playing a game here? what do you think he's doing here? i thought he was taking the side of the demonstrators, urging some kind of significant political change in that country. >> i didn't hear a lot in the direction of significant political change. i heard a lot about reform. and that is one of these very squishy words. i don't think the united states wants to see a massive upheaval in cairo and in egypt in general. th...

Certain extent. >> gregg: when you heard that tissy was getting married at the age of 15, what did you think? >> i wondered what was wrong with my brother. why my brother would let his 15-year-old daughter get married. >> gregg: joyce is tissy's aunt. we wanted to talk to tissy's father donny he declined. tissy's mom died in 2002. did you try talking to donny? >> i said something to them both that she hardly even knows him. they were just mostly my brother i think was set on letting her do it. i was told well he has a lot of money. he has land in egypt. and i was kind of like she was gonna be ...

Find, for me to put my girls to rest. if it was him, nobody would find his girls. >> gregg: who said this? >> yoesin, he has five girls. >> gregg: do you think islam has had contact with his father since the murders? >> i don't think so, i don't know. >> gregg:'s lamb her oldest child is now living in egypt. she rarely talks to him. >> last time i talked to islam he said his dad didn't do it. that their mexican boyfriends did it. i said that is not true islam. >> gregg: is it true that islam said at one point in time, after the murders, that his sisters got what they deserved, because they bre...

Actually bugging the inside of amina's car with a hidden audio recorder. >> amina had a '99 taurus the car had been hit the air bag come out he put it in there and couldn't tell. any time that anybody would talk it would turn on. >> gregg: that recording apparently confirmed his suspicions. amina had a boyfriend. then what did he do? >> he asked who the boy was. she told him that it was a friend. >> gregg: whether he believed her or not, tissy says, yaser would not risk letting his daughters end up with nonmuslim husbands. yaser planned on marrying off amina and sarah in egypt. was he going to...