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Disconnect between the lawyers in the case and the judge who basically told flynn, you don't want me to sentence you right now. why don't you see if you can cooperate more because essentially signaling he was going to throw the book at him. something's going on right now. a lot of people have speculated that flynn may be in line for a pardon right now, and that's why he's replacing his legal team and the president might be heading toward that now. would that be potentially problematic in terms of the president being liable for obstruction? >> i think it would be very problematic. a pardon unde...

Said about how much he relied on the office of legal counsel guidance that a sitting president cannot be indicted and what the attorney general said in april, there's a real disconnect. i think we have the sound of the attorney general, question three, if we can run that. >> he made it very clear, several times, that that was not his position. he was not saying that but for the, olc opinion, he would have found a crime. he made it clear that he had not made the determination that there was a crime. >> that a contradiction, do you think? >> absolutely. and i think people like to always say that...