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>> just very briefly, john, you were saying democrats have that same -- >> at the end of the campaign, this is what happens. >> my first campaign was michael dukakis. we were on the road this week, he was saying george h.w. bush. when kellyanne conway tells you we're winning everywhere, no offense to kellyanne conway, that's her job. the congressman is right about obamacare, there are a lot of republicans especially after the "access hollywood" tape who ran from donald trump, sprinted from him. especially women. a lot of them have come home. the obamacare announcement has helped with that. we ...

Choice you talk to people in his campaign, they will tell you they believe there's some opportunity in some of these blue states. he's got to flip some blue states if he wants to win this election. they believe they have a shot in a state like michigan, they believe this have a shot in a state like colorado for example. most polls show hillary clinton pretty much up. they believe it's more of a tie there. i any he has to go everywhere he can, where he believes he can flip and turn a blue state red the republicans do not have the get out the vote operation that hillary clinton has. donald trump...

40 points. you can't lose by that amount among such a large demographic group and still win the state. you also have the fact that the democratic registration and get the out the vote machine is far superior to the republicans, the republicans don't even exist when it comes to the romney campaign and the republican national committee have had to set up a parallel organization to do that. but it's because of the economy that you mentioned early on that i think that romney still has a chance to win the state, and i don't think the obama folks are cocky about that. they're confident, but i wouldn...

Cooperation. th >> that is because when elected officials didn't cooperate the public sector unions fdr warned about declares the unthinkable strikes. the most memorable case the summer of 1975 when new york was close to bankruptcy. sanitation workers let garbage pile up in the streets while laid off police march and shut down the brooklyn bridge. unions demonstrated their clout nationally when they helped senator ted kennedy mount a surprisingly strong primary challenge to a sitting democratic president they didn't like. jimmy carter. >> public sector unions become the get out at vote machine...

Disorienting. they were looking at a whole bunch of tactical and strategic adjustments. what he needs is boots on the ground and hiring staff and recruiting volunteers. insiders in the gingrich campaign across the country acknowledged at this point it is really too late the build the full-blown iowa caucus get-out-the-vote machine that can compete. they will try like crazy they're scrambling to do so. but it will not be the traditional iowa caucus get-out-the-vote machine that mike huckabee had last sometime around or mitt romney himself had last time around and have a remnants. jenna: can you...