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Million to 4 million illegal immigrants voted -- that's what made hillary clinton -- >> the russians manipulating the vote, is that legal? >> no one is saying the russians manipulated the voting box. >> what everyone is saying -- >> that's not what the commission is set to up to do. >> let's expand it, anderson. >> i don't have control over that. that's what they are saying. >> look, it's not just about the next election, which i think is really important, but it is also about faith in a democratic system. democracies are built on faith. that's the only way they operate. you have to believe th...

>> i don't have control over that. that's what they are saying. >> look, it's not just about the next election, which i think is really important, but it is also about faith in a democratic system. democracies are built on faith. that's the only way they operate. you have to believe that you are -- that you are part of the system, that the system is fair and that it works for you. >> and there's no vote stealing in chicago. >> right, and there's no people intentionally trying to pass laws to make sure that black people can't vote. >> we got to leave it there. i got to take a quick break. i'll ...

There was some vote stealing. they broke the rules about absentee ballots. the judge threw the guy out, put the republican in, dealt with. it's taken seriously. >> you know, it happens once in a while, but donald trump can't -- you can see that he might legitimately lose. >> is this a hedge? >> it's a hedge, because he wants open rebellion should he lose. he's setting up a situation where republicans will have to pick and choose between two sides. one side, well, he lost, let's get on with life. the other side, it was stolen from donald trump, hillary clinton is illegitimate, you must impeach ...

A little time for comment here. what do you make of these charges that seem so third world. >> you know, the operative word is access. he had a softball pitched at him. he could have talked about campaign shenanigans in the clinton campaign, he could have talked about the e-mails, he could have talked about the chairman's resignation. he could have talked about everything and say, hey, it's coming our way, be careful, but, no, he had to add electoral fraud. you heard the secretary of state. we've had 200 some years of democracy in america. we have never in our history had to deal with that kin...

There was some vote stealing. they broke the rules about absentee ballots. the judge threw the guy out, put the republican in, dealt with. it's taken seriously. >> you know, it happens once in a while, but donald trump can't -- you can see that he might legitimately lose. >> is this a hedge? >> it's a hedge, because he wants open rebellion should he lose. he's setting up a situation where republicans will have to pick and choose between two sides. one side, he lost, let's get on with life. the other side, it was stolen from donald trump, hillary clinton is illegitimate, you must impeach her. >...