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900,000 to 400,000. if those voting patterns hold and they could break for romney you just don't know but if they hold it shows incredible mobilization among obama voters. i know we're short on time. there's a sentiment that was touched on last time they were trying to stop obama and this time they are trying to stop all of us. i think when that takes hold it's a strong geotv message. we'll see how that shakes out. >> jennifer, you wrote in "the washington post" that the president's early voting advantage doesn't really exist. explain that to me. what states are we talking about? >> if you loo...

This race to 1980 which is pretty close between jimmy carter and ronald reagan and ronald reagan went onto a route. i don't think that is apt. i think president obama did fairly well at the debate this week. romney has the momentum. it could come down to the last week, some type of october surprise. romney has the edge at the moment. jon: it could come down to differences in voting patterns between men and women. jenna was talking about this last hour. men as an election threat have long favored governor romney by several points, but president obama's advantage among women was greater, and the...

Terms of voting patterns... >> greta: i think it's starting to at least chip away. >> it's a long term process. >> i think the republican primary dz a lot of damage to that project. i think your last guest would probably agree. he felt like the republican party had to change messaging to that and the by he went after rick perry people forget one of the key ways he knock out rick perry was going after hi on immigration. i think there may have been an opening because of the economy hitting hispanics because obama didn't follow through on promises of action he made. i think they blew the opportun...

Terms of voting patterns... >> greta: i think it's starting to at least chip away. >> it's a long term process. >> i think the republican primary dz a lot of damage to that project. i think your last guest would probably agree. he felt like the republican party had to change messaging to that and the by he went after rick perry people forget one of the key ways he knock out rick perry was going after hi on immigration. i think there may have been an opening because of the economy hitting hispanics because obama didn't follow through on promises of action he made. i think they blew the opportun...

Terms of voting patterns... >> greta: i think it's starting to at least chip away. >> it's a long term process. >> i think the republican primary dz a lot of damage to that project. i think your last guest would probably agree. he felt like the republican party had to change messaging to that and the by he went after rick perry people forget one of the key ways he knock out rick perry was going after hi on immigration. i think there may have been an opening because of the economy hitting hispanics because obama didn't follow through on promises of action he made. i think they blew the opportun...