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Any voting reforms. i think when we're coming to the conclusion, i hope, as a body that there is no path to 60 votes on any reforms to our very broken democratic system and, you know, that's a conversation we have to have internally in the senate. >> there are three or four, joe manchin gets most of the attention. senator sinema of arizona gets the next amount. but there are a couple others too. are they going to have this conversation, all getting together and say let's forget our agenda because we can't get 60 votes, or say sorry, we need to do this with all democrats and you need to come ar...

Version. all republicans, i think, will oppose that as well. >> reporter: mcconnell's opposition is significant because in order to get anything through the senate it requires ten republican votes. if mcconnell says republicans are not going to support it they likely will not. that means forward for this bill to get through democrats would need to break up the filibuster for it and that's something that manchin has said he cannot do. while manchin believes that he can come around to supporting some form of voting reforms, unless he's willing to also break up the filibuster this bill is not goi...

Republicans, i think, will oppose that as well if that were to be surfaced on the floor. >> reporter: now, mcconnell's opposition is significant because in order to get anything through the senate it requires ten republican votes and if mcconnell says republicans aren't going to support it they likely will not. so that means in order for this bill to get through democrats would need to break up the filibuster for it and that's something that manchin has said he cannot do. so while manchin believes that he can come around to supporting some form of voting reforms, unless he's willing to also br...

40 democrats for all important areas to climate change to the most important, voting reforms. but when you put a heavy burden on it and if we have a majority leader who is willing to play some hard ball, and of course mitch mcconnell has given us the template for how to play outrageous out ball you can make their lives miserable and you can focus public attention on these issues, including guns as well, and background checks. there is a pretty good chance that we're going to get a lot of things through that are now impossible. you know, what we've seen it on a couple of occasions is senators d...

As anything else because when it comes to this bipartisan argument, i got to tell you, i don't buy it. >> what exactly did you mean by that? are you saying joe manchin's opposition is because he wants to keep political donations flowing? >> well, you know, i think that, i think that when we talk about opposition to hr1 to be just about voting rights, we're not telling the whole story. hr1 has sweeping voting reforms. we have the influence of big money that impacts not just one party, but both parties in the united states congress. and i do believe that that old way of politics has absolutely a...