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Mississippi in the 60s, he says it's the worst case of voter intimidation he has ever seen in his 40 years of practicing civil rights laws. megyn: it was clear to you a case needed to be brought. >> slam dunn. nobody thought there was think doubt this is the clearest case of voter intimidation that i've seen since i've been practicing law. megyn: when the case was originally filed who was at the top, was it president bush or obama. >> it was president bush, january of 2009. megyn: the case gets filed, you become the lead attorney on this case. >> there were other attorneys working on it. five ...

That the voting section would not be pursuing these sorts of cases. megyn: who specifically has issued that mandate? >> well, you know, there are some things i'm not going to reveal as far as who they are. they know who they are. they've said that if somebody wants to bring these kind of cases it's not going to be done out of the civil rights division. if a u.s. attorney wants to do it that is up to them, but it's not going to happen out of the civil rights division. megyn: lit me ask you this, is it somebody or is it several people in positions of pow stpher. >> it's a political a pointy. meg...

History. for someone to say something like that should give you chills. megyn: perez testified whether laws at justice department are enforced in a racial neutral manner. question, it would be what problem then if any political appointee or supervising attorney expressed the view the voting rights laws should never be enforced against blangs and other racial minorities. answer, that is not our practice. we look at facts and the law. >> if he had discussions with all people in the his shop he will know that's false. there is a hostility in the voting section and civil rights division bringing c...

>> if he's had discussions with all his people in his shop he will know that's false. there is a hostility in the voting section and in the civil rights division to bringing case on behalf of white victims for the benefit of national racial minorities. that's a fact. it was on open display in the department. i write about this as my pajamas media piece. it's perfectly clear to anybody in the department that there is this hostility. they are hiding behind this shield of people really knowing the truth. there is no doubt about it. megyn: is the department of justice corrupt? >> i think the decis...

>> there is a pervasive hostility to bringing these sort of civil rights cases. i worked on other ones at the justice department. by represented both black victims of racial discrimination, hispanic victims and in this case a white victim. there is a pervasive hostility within the civil rights division of the justice department towards these sorts of cases. megyn: do you believe the doj has a policy of not pursuing cases if the defendant is black and the victim is white. >> particularly in voting that will be the case over the next few years, there is no doubt about it. instructions were if yo...