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Groups to challenge this law. but did 180 degree turn just this past week. >> it is interesting you bring that up with the justice department because we want to talk about jeff sessions in the capacity of russia. but now as the head of the department of justice here, you had him who met with the naacp president on friday regarding voting rights, voter suppression and policing. and he described the meeting as this, plitly and unnecessarily blunt, cordial and candid. we have been here before, and there is unrest. so what more are you hearing from folks about this, and especially about that meeti...

Latches on to somebody with a bunch of wild claims, puts it out there so his base once again will run with it. so that we'll talk about it on the air. it will become a part of the national discussion and it has no basis in fact. it's part of an ideological argument about voter fraud versus voter suppression. why can't we have a fact-based argument about voting in this country? in the president of the united states really wants to have a fact-based argument and a commission on voting suppression and voting fraud, let's have it. let's have a congressional investigation. find out what the hell th...

The irony is, this situation could be a positive for the president of the united states. he could say, look, i came through an election, our system isn't perfect, that's what we're about, a complete democracy. we're going to investigate and make ourselves better and look at the real fraud in our system, voting suppression. we have a problem with it right here. that's not what he's doing. we've already seen with putin they're taking advantage. people will say, i don't buy what sherman is saying, the rest of the world doesn't care. what's proof to the opposite? >> what's so interesting is to wat...

America. this election proved that was not the case to be quite honest with you. i agree 1,000% that the democratic party should go after and put together a big coalition, lgbt, hispanic women, african-americans, et cetera, et cetera. what you cannot do whe you put together that coalition is seem like you're forgetting everybody else. joeiden said this -- >> andeally forgetting a lot of memory because they said identity politics is dead. they really didn't do identity politics. they didn't identify with anybody. >> not at all. if you recall last year, my biggest concern on this election was th...

Moment. the wrap-up of 2016, chelsea clinton introducing her dad, and the basic message is, tell your friends, tell your roommates, don't leave anything on the table. don't leave any vote unturned. north carolina can change as it has been to be fighting for voting rights, against voting suppression. there was a key ruling here just last friday from a federal judge. all sorts of issues in early voting, they need to get that vote out. i have to tell you, privately, my information is that the clinton polls believe that this is going to be very tough here. we've all been giving north carolina a lo...