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Them. and what it does is it makes the public look at the fissures in the democratic party and say, wait a minute, whose party is this? is this the party of the moderates, or is this the party of the progressives? and, you know, that's a difficult question to answer. i know what chris was saying, it's now become the party of the progressives. certainly more than we have ever seen. and they have decided to hold firm. and whether a deal can be struck remains to be seen, but it will be a big deal if they get it. >> it's interesting because where democrats win has been with moderates. and even in ...

Agreement. the first agreement in the doha agreement, there would be successful negotiations between the taliban and the ghani government to have a government of reconciliation. everybody keeps talking about the doha agreement, the doha agreement meant we were not going to move until all conditions were met that were put forth in the agreement. we were not leaving and one may date was not a date certain, that was a forcing function to get there. on the 3rd of march, president trump picked up the phone and called perarter, and told him that. i was in the oval office and heard what he said. if t...

He's testifying tomorrow and it will be very interesting because bob costa and i found no evidence that he committed treason as some people allege. in fact, all of the information we have and we spent months on this is that he did things t protect the country from trump and trump was doing things accusing on the pandemic always talking about the china virus tweeting that millions of ballots will be coming from foreign countries. donald trump set the stage of doubt and worry that caused people to say wait a minute, within the procedures and the law and i think people acted within procedures and...

They're not able to produce them. they're not able to get it. or they're being hoarded. it's like, you know, what we have with -- and we're making progress, but like what we're doing with regard to making sure we have the computer chips to be able to keep -- in the vernacular, to keep, you know, build automobiles. i think everybody was kind of surprised when i -- i think i had said to you -- i may be dead wrong, but if i had the said to you in, say, april, that i was going to get all three major manufacturers of american automobiles saying they're going to go electric, i doubt you thought that...

Don't want to do that to the environment and they start thinking wait a minute. i have all the diesel buses at home. it would be a hell of a lot better if we had electric buses and it would change the circumstance boom, boom, boom. so i think this is a process. that's why i said at the front end that although we got off to a very fast start with the first piece of legislation, i don't expect this to be done and us being in a position where we can look back and say okay, did we get it done, until the basically the end of the year. i don't mean the vote on the two pieces of legislation related t...