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Get your cell phones out, folks, i want to know what you think on this one tonight. tonight's text question is, do the walker tapes prove that governor walker is beholding to the koch brothers and big business? text a for yes, b for no, to 622639. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. joining us now from an undisclosed location is wisconsin state senator lena taylor. senator, you're one of the 14. does this story strengthen your resolve tonight? is this the smoking gun? what do you think? >> it definitely strengthens my resolve in the fact that he shows he has no character. his int...

How we were going to do it. we had already built plans up, kind of the last hurrah before we dropped the bomb. and i stood up and pulled out a picture of ronald reagan. and i said, you know, this may seem a little melodramatic, but 30 years ago ronald reagan, whose 100th birthday we celebrated the day before, had one of the most defining moments of his political career, not just his presidency, when he fired the air traffic controllers. and i said, to me, that moment was more important for just the labor relations or even the federal government. that was the first crack in the berlin wall and ...

Worried that it might not play well politically. that's a very troubling thing to have a governor of an american state talking about. >> no question about it. and today in his press conference, he claimed that he didn't say anything on that phone conversation that he hasn't said in public. your response to that? >> that's a dishonest statement, ed. there were a number of things he said in that phone conversation that he hasn't said in public. the fact of the matter is, that i don't think that i recall any of his press conferences where he discussed that he was considering sending troublemakers...

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I wonder if walker means billionaires or republicans. later in the call, walker lays out a plot to trap the wisconsin 14, so republicans can stage a sneak attack vote. >> the interesting idea that was brought up to me this morning by my chief of staff, we won't do it until tomorrow, is putting out an appeal to the democrat leader that i would be willing to sit down and talk to him, the assembly democrat leader, plus the other two republican leaders. talk, not negotiate. and listen to what they have to say, if they will in turn -- i'll only do it if all 14 of them come back and sit down in the ...