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Shame and blame we all gather together. i appreciate the love and heartfelt emotion. >> is 97 years old and look 20 years younger. must be an honor to talk to him. >> reporter: it really is. we should all be so lucky to be as sharp and with it as tom rice is at 97 years old. he will keep doing these jumps. when he talks about closure, for himself personally but also to recognize world war ii could have ended very differently. we could have ended with german occupation not being rolled back. think about the jews of europe and the incredible toll they paid. carley: we want to get to the walking ...

About getting that near to death. what was it like talking to him today? >> well, i was surprised he was in such good health. he was weak. he stopped the interview after about an hour, he said he couldn't go on. he walks quite slowly but his mind was sharp. he was speaking very clearly. there was no stuttering or issues with that but i was impressed at his bravery. we did a walking shot where we walked together to get some pictures. he has something of a limp right now which is from his last poisoning. he lost a lot of feeling in -- on the left side of his body but i found him to be very coura...

Correspondent. congratulations on getting that interview. it's harrowing to hear this man who was almost killed twice talk about getting that near to death. whafts it like talking to him today? >> well, i was surprised he was in such good health. he was weak. he stopped the interview after about an hour, he said he couldn't go on. he walks quite slowly but his mind was sharp. he was speaking very clearly. there was no stutderring or issues with that but i was impressed at his bravery. we did a walking shot where we walked together to get some pictures. he has something of a limp right now whic...

>> well, i was surprised he was in such good health. he was weak. he stopped the interview after about an hour, he said he couldn't go on. he walks quite slowly but his mind was sharp. he was speaking very clearly. there was no stutderring or issues with that but i was impressed at his bravery. we did a walking shot where we walked together to get some pictures. he has something of a limp right now which is from his last poisoning. lost a lot of feeling in -- on the left side of his body but i found him to be very courageous that he was willing to sit down and tell his story after they tried t...

Fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. put the fish in the cooler! >> at the tulsa county jail, kenneth witty is regarded by the staff as one of the better-known troublemakers and we got a small taste of that ourselves. >> kenneth was always messing with me in one way or another, whether it be i was doing a walking shot and he would start off at a nice pace and i would be backing up, but then he would slowly start to increase his speed and i would try to stay with him. >> you have to learn to back a up faster, bryan, for real. start running. >> he woul...