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>> i said, life is never going to be the same. we are -- this whole situation had changed our whole life. >> reporter: meanwhile in the wake of the atf debacle, the u.s. justice department sends in the fbi. there are two teams. a heavily armed tactical unit with armored personnel carriers and negotiators, armed with a phone and their wits. >> i teach negotiators that the very first thing you have to have is self-control. >> reporter: gary is the bureau's chief negotiator. when you got there, when you were briefed, what were you dealing with? >> i think in the context of the atf where there cle...

To be the same. we are -- this whole situation had changed our whole life. >> reporter: meanwhile in the wake of the atf debacle, the u.s. justice department sends in the fbi. there are two teams. a heavily armed tactical unit with armored personnel carriers and negotiators, armed with a phone and their wits. >> i teach negotiators that the very first thing you have to have is self-control. >> reporter: gary is the bureau's chief negotiator. when you got there, when you were briefed, what were you dealing with? >> i think in the context of the atf where there clearly was anger, the predominant...

Almost like walking zombies. >> reporter: his team wants to understand koresh's personality. >> and this is something this whole nation's going to have to learn. they can learn by listening or they're going to learn the hard way. >> i believe everything he did, almost throughout the entirety of the ordeal, was ambivalence, was part of me wants to live, part of me wants to die. >> reporter: they looked for clues in this tv news report about koresh and branch davidians from australia. >> his tongue is the punabe so how will god talk to me? who's going to bring that book? so, there will be no exc...

>> i said, life is never going to be the same. we are -- this whole situation had changed our whole lyle. >> reporter: meanwhile in the wake of the atf debacle, the u.s. justice department sends in the fbi. there are two teams. a heavily armed tactical unit with armored personnel carriers and negotiators, armed with a phone and their wits. >> i teach negotiators that the very first thing have you to have is self-control. >> reporter: gary is the bureau's chief negotiator. when you got there, when you were briefed, what were you dealing with? >> i think in the context of the atf where there cle...

The bloodshed. but some children are being sent out, including sheila martin's three youngest. >> i said, life is never going to be the same. we are -- this whole situation had changed our whole lyle. >> reporter: meanwhile in the wake of the atf debacle, the u.s. justice department sends in the fbi. there are two teams. a heavily armed tactical unit with armored personnel carriers and negotiators, armed with a phone and their wits. >> i teach negotiators that the very first thing have you to have is self-control. >> reporter: gary is the bureau's chief negotiator. when you got there, when you...