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Fighting for the wall. the fight is even more important than the wall. >> are you giving credit to lindsey graham saying another cr? >> he's one of the president's closest allies on the hill. there is other times where he floated ideas within days or week that the president sort of grab and oh, we'll do this. it is possible. it is possible it got kicked down the road a little bit. both parties want to avoid that. they don't want to love this drama. they want to go to other things and the house democrats want to move onto other business including the investigation. i think that can't be ruled o...

The challenges we have on the southern border in a common sense way. i'm very hopeful. not positive, but very hopeful we can come to agreement. >> to quote the senator, looking for a bottom line, is this about the lawmakers that are negotiating the deal, or is this about the president? >> i think this, that perfectly encapsulates the biggest problem here. he's exactly right. these are a bunch of rational, level-headed people, people used to cutting deals during times of distress and anxiety prior to a government sdhount but end of the day this is really about the president, and mick mulvane sy...

>> what would anne coulter say and he's looking at his reelection without his base and which was all about immigration, that's the core of his base and the mexicans are rapists and so forth. >> right. >> you are thinking of national emergency declaration here. jonathan, when we listen to mulvaney this morning, he let open a possibility of a shutdown. he says this wall is going to be built one way or another. do you think there is a new sense of conference and new sense of that in the white house? >> there is several different options here. there is no question of optimism last week that a deal...

Other means where they can take appropriated money and directed towards the use without a national emergency, just sort of working the system to look for that and openness to that idea from the administration would be the president moving some what. the president is not backing off wanting a wall or a barrier and now this new issue of the number of detention beds being made available and how many would be funded, that carries big ramifications so that's a serious concern as they are running up against the deadline. >> alex? >> kelly o'donell, thank you for laying it out for us. let's bring in ...

They stand on this issue. that's one of the reasons we are having a difficulty coming to a deal. >> is that a fair c categorization? >> do democrats know where they stand? >> i think nancy pelosi have been clear on day one. zero money for the wall. they have open to border fencing or barrier money. that's something democrats have come around to and they got to close to an actual number. that's where they were at on friday. they were hammering the final number for that. the question was whether trump would be willing to accept that. we don't know where trump is. he's the most unpredictable comp...