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Down trade across the border, things like national security, and then president trump well knows he keeps his eye on the stock market if there is some interruption to cross border trade, it could well rattle markets and that's not something the president looks favorably on. you see there was a lot of frantic tweeting in the last week or two as the stock market see sawed up and down and settled down as of yesterday. >> not like the markets need something else to worry about at this point. a cnn poll shows people oppose a wall built, only 38% favor it. the president has dug in his heels here. it...

Some pieces of land are as wide as parking spots. we have to go to court and actually get through that process and actually pay fair market value to the land owners. remember the secure fence act of 12 years ago? we're still in court with over 100 separate cases. the president is not going to have his wall built even if he gets a second term. it's a fool's errand. they should focus on a technological solution which is really what customs and border patrol want. plus focus on the real immigration problem -- >> we know he wants to say look, i got this wall built. >> and he says he's a successful...

Against himself. we don't really know what he wants. last week he was sort of all over the place. the administration was all over the place in terms of first sort of accepting deal that congressional democrats and republicans had reached. and then backed away because of pressure from the far right, and then today and yesterday you heard him talking act webout wee are building a wall, but we need a wall. he said in the past our southern border is secure, and then on the same day said all these terrorists are pouring in. we don't know exactly what trump wants. it's hard to negotiate with someone...

Sides. 85% of americans would like to see protections for dreamers. that's something democrats have fought for a long time. if he gave protections for dreamers, that would help. at the same time he can do some of the things he wants. he can certainly get that wall built and throw in doing away with chain migration and the visa lottery. there are a lot of areas that are room for negotiation that have been agreed on in the past. the dream act of 2001, a bipartisan act. these were key components of that. the numbers are one aspect and the outside components with regard to dreamers are something t...

Billion dollars for an undefined border wall, not even going whether it be concrete or steel or what it's cost per mile would be. >> are the republicans losing the argument here in bogging down how many millions it's going to be or what it's going to look like rather than convincing the american people and therefore putting pressure on democrats of this is a national security issue? and it shouldn't matter what it costs? >> they do need to stress it's a national security issue. whether it's 6 billion or -- we are talking about a multitrillion dollar budget and a while that we desperately need ...