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Human trafficking. ice agents saved over 900 kids last year from human trafficking in this country. things happening at the border. we need to have it safe. let's have a negotiation. president trump has more leverage in that negotiation because the house proofrkd we can get it done. let's see the figure out every tool they have to try to figure out how to get this done as well and get the bill on the president's desk. >> julie: study have said walls work. you talk about children being illegally crossed across the border and trafficked and that's why. one of the many reasons why this wall is ne...

On this issue of reprogramming specifically, is your red line in these negotiations that you need congress to reprogram money explic explicitly so the defense department or whoever it might be, the congress say you can spend this money that we didn't spend on something else on wall construction -- >> no. >> reporter: or are you saying you have the legal authority because nancy pelosi said today doesn't exist. >> i would never use nancy pelosi as my source on anything but i would use attorneys that work here at the white house and agencies that's their entire job is determining whether or not s...

>> sure, want to go back to the shutdown. you keep saying you have asked agencys to look for more money. on the issue of reprogramming specifically, is your red line in the negotiation, you need congress to reprogram money explicitly so dhs or the department or whoever it might be say -- congress say you can spend this money for something else on wall construction? >> no. >> are you saying you have legal authority, what are you basing legal authority on? nancy pelosi said today in fact that is her -- sarah sanders: i would never use nancy pelosi as my source for legal authority on anything. i ...

To build a wall. it still remains the rally in cry, build the wall. but a lot of these decisions are going to be punted until after the election. the funding decision for example about whether there would be additional funding for the wall construction that president trump wants is likely going to be made in december during the lame-duck session. there could be fireworks there. lawmakers behind me may not want to plan their christmas vacations yet. these decisions won't happen right away because so many members, senators are out on the campaign trail right now trying to win reelection. and wha...

Reaches the senate. what are republicans doing in this period? >> well, i think, brian, there are a couple things at play here. one is politically they are trying to show the conservative base, the trump voters, the thousands of people that turn out at these rallies they are pushing forward, that they're plowing ahead, that they are going to build a wall. it still remains the rallying cry, build the wall. but a lot of these decisions are going to be punted until after the election. the funding decision for example about whether there would be additional funding for the wall construction that p...