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Digging in over the cause of the grid lock. president trump's proposed wall on the u.s./mexico border, which the president repeatedly threatened to close this week if funding for his wall doesn't materialize. we have three days left in 2018, the outgoing congress will punt on the showdown until the new one convenes next week. it's first legislative fight already laid out to get the government fully working again. joining me now, joe madsen, sirius xm radio talk show hoyt. hue hewitt salem radio network host and mailboxes nbc analyst and maya wiley former u.s. assist attorney and msnbc legal an...

Tax season, the president is going to have to break on this issue. and a lot of political science has shown this, as much as president trump wants to say this wall is very important, the wall has been symbolic. if the wall doesn't get built, they'll just say it's because of the evil liberal democrat. there's nobody in washington, d.c. right here right now who thinks that anything, even if it's just a bunch of spiky slats are ever going to get put up on our border. >> i can't agree anymore. i think ultimately the president needs to say he won something, he needs to be able to turn to his base i...

This wall is very important, the wall has been symbolic. if the wall doesn't get built, they'll just say it's because of the evil liberal democrat. there's nobody in washington, d.c. right here right now who thinks that anything, even if it's just a bunch of spiky slats are ever going to get put up on our border. >> i can't agree anymore. i think ultimately the president needs to say he won something, he needs to be able to turn to his base in good faith, whatever that means with that weird relationship he has with his base and say, listen, i had a win, i'm a fighter. he can make a win out of ...

What was your reaction when he realized he could do this himself? >> he asked me, i had the iphone and he said what's better, the iphone or the android. he said the android has a bigger screen. i said there's no way he's going to do this. i heard he's playing with twitter in his office. one night a tweet goes out and it was an innocent tweet but the time it went out, like, i don't remember approving this. i start checking with people with access to the account. and i found out trump did it. my first reaction was similar to dr. grant in jurassic park when he learned that raptors can open doors ...

I'm not going to talk about it now but i will say this. we have been building a lot of wall. >> i was struck by that, senator, because he dodged the question three times and he had a very firm position on the $5 billion for a long time now. do you see that as an opening? do you think he's caving? >> kate, no one knows what the president's thinking. he's changed his mind so many different times. we had an agreement to continue government operations and continue our negotiations into the new year. the president signed off on that. then he changed his mind after he heard the reaction on certain n...