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Used. >> even going back to the time of the founding fathers, there was a recognition that you couldn't carry, you know, a bazooka or some kind of weapon that an army would have but you did have the right to defend yourself in your home. clearly that's what the courts have said. so i think the second amendment, it a exists, permits the government to restrict certain kinds of weapons. we don't have to repeal the second amendment of the justice stevens is correct, if you repeal the second amendment, could you do any kind of gun control that you want west can't even pass a law in this country pla...

Spender. méxico was supposed to pay for the wall, i think that was the promise. but a wall is not the answer, that's been proven over and over again. so this wall is a little unnecessary, ridiculous and that's why it's not in the current bill that passed. so these are future plans, mulvaney is talking about a future wall plan and future bill that's never going to happen especially with 2018 elections coming up. heather: what do you think about that in terms of election coming up? >> if wall doesn't work why does méxico have it in southern body -- border, why does israel have in territories n...

Sinker. >> that's rich. chuck schumer accepted donald trump's offer of $18 billion to build the wall. that was the deal. then two hours later kelly calls and says no, no, no, we need $33 billion to build the wall. and everyone is like what? come on. so how can you do a deal with any of these guys? cotton is as bad as the rest of them. the last point, wait, one last point. republicans four or five of them voted against the budget deal. that's another reason why. >> bill: i think it was three the other days. >> democrats are the ones bringing the immigration debate into the spending deal. for th...

Back under president bush, we added a lot of border security. we added 654 miles of fencing at that time. the republicans said this is what we need. years later they're saying, no, no, no, we actually need more. the point i make, much if you put the most beautiful wall, 40% of undocumented persons that are here came in through a legal system, permit. >> and overstayed their visas. the wall doesn't solve that problem. we are sort of getting bogged down in trying to define all of this. this is the steuging point with funding the government and keeping the government open. how are you going to vo...

Opportunity? >> absolutely. i think republicans need to be wary of president trump. democrats also need to be wary of having only anti-trump message all the time. because there are people out there who will see the economy getting better and see some of the announcements and like him and want to hear a positive message from democrats, not just trump is terrible, the russia investigation, all the other stuff. that's going to get people activated and out. if you want independence if you want those white women who you lost in the 2016 election, you need to say this is what we're going to do diffe...