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It will be for slats or poles or fence or something like that. but the bottom line is as long as it provides a deterrent to the illegal flow of illegal immigrants in the country i think both sides can mark it up as a success. >> tucker: why does nobody ask the obvious question, which is what is the problem with the wall? it's too expensive and doesn't work. nobody believes that. why does nobody press the left like why are you against this? >> yes. you know, last night, i had the debate with austan goolsbee, who is a nice guy. but i said a simple question, if you were doing this and wanted to c...

>> i'm not here to defend the decisions or the look of the action on part of the trump administration. i'm interested in the country. and why the border really is crisis. the leaders of the republican side to be fair are against securing the border. why? not because the wall doesn't work. it does work, auz owe now. 's not too expensive. what is the real reason? >> they all have different ways to secure the border. the president wants to build a wall from sea to shining sea that he promised that mexico would faye for it. i don't think -- pay for it. i don't think we need it but mexico should sa...

Playing, resistance to anything the president is wanting to accomplish which is a shame because americans should come first. our security is number one. rob: a real scolding from the president to chuck schumer, didn't even want to look his way for most of it. the president rattled off some stats, places where the wall hasn't been built you are seeing decreases around 90% flow into the country. this idea the wall won't were, where is a coming from? very smart people say the wall doesn't work. how can a wall not work? >> the question goes back to the former question. if not a wall, then what? wh...

Held accountable pay their taxes right and wrong way to hire workers and this is the wrong way. steve: what about everify? if you had everify this wouldn't be a problem. >> i totally support everify and other legislation on the hill. i believe goodlat included information that may include that there is a smart way to go. system in place. show it works. used by all employers in the country. brian: some people want to say so-called experts. wall doesn't work or surveillance is just as good. or that is very old school. it's all about politics. tell me, tom, from what you could tell and knowing th...

The bill go in to effect july 1st. brian: let's go down to down to steve and the judge. ainsley: in a fish bowl. steve: whether to renew a controversial surveillance program backed by the white house crucial measure in protecting all of us against terrorism. judge napolitano says it puts the constitutional privacy rights of every american at risk. explain that. judge: it's a very dangerous program. look, in the nixon era when president nixon used the fbi and the cia to spy on political opponents, the response to that was fight, is a foreign intelligence surveillance act which said no spying un...