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Technology there is a deal to be had. the question is account president get his mind around it remember, they it had a deal in december $1. billion and the president indicated to senators and to the leadership he would be for that deal. >> you saw mitch mcconnell say that and he was humiliated. >> right it's tough to cut deals with somebody, with a principle who doesn't really make his intentions or preferences known ever, and when he does, oftentimes he changes. >> changes his mind. no an excellent point tiffany, the reality, coverage for this president out of this was universally that he cav...

Funding for a border barrier? >> i don't see it right now, john. i mean, what we know from the polling, and we've had some recent polls indicating very clearly now, i think it's 54% of the american people don't favor the wall. so that the wall itself, which is a huge political symbol for this president, does not seem to have the political power that he thought. we have seen his numbers drop. the ap poll, julie is here, now has him at 34% approval. that's a drop for him. i'm particularly in touch with the idea that independents who i think are key as we look towards 2020 and the president and h...

Middle? >> that is the magical question. i had a number of town halls earlier this week in which i laid out the vision of, hey, there are seven spending bills being held hostage. why to the release six of them and do a continuing resolution on the seventh. i found in the conservative parts of my home state, that sounded pretty appealing to people, pretty reasonable. but that vision the house laid out hasn't resonated with the republicans. so now we're looking for that magical bridge here. but the wall itself, this 30-foot construction that many on the border guards say is not effective as a de...

You've got to do something to shake this up. just put something on the table. this is wholly a proposal from the white house. that is the problem. even though we saw some movement in terms of the wall itself, the president conceding for the first time this is not a contiguous wall, also giving a little bit on daca, it is not anywhere close to what the democrats would want in terms of the money being directed towards the infrastructure needed at ports of entry, drones, more people on the border. there is stuff in there on increased border security that's not wall, but they're still far apart on...

All right in place and a concrete wall. >> what's the difference. >> there's fencing which trump criticized. he criticized the existing fiance. >> what is the difference. >> i don't know how to leave trump out television. this is all about him. >> he's not here. so democrats voted for a physical barrier. >> right. >> and now they can shutting down the government because trump want ace different kind of physical barrier. what about his physical barrier is more offensive than their. >> i would change it say, trump is shut down government. >> right. okay. i don't even care. what is the difference...