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We met joy and listened to her today at the hospital. she wanted to talk about her daughter. she wanted to talk about what her daughter went through. she was sitting next to her daughter-in-law. how long did it feel like it went on for? >> five or ten minutes at least. >> and were you able to speak to each other during it? >> i just remember hollering asking god to keep us safe. it took the wall. it got the ceiling. and i could feel it sucked the wall out behind us. it felt like it was trying to somersault me. had me rolled up in a ball. something air came and hit me on the bottom of the foot....

Downtown oregon. think of that headline. where have you ever heard of that before? they are starting to loosen up the wall. perhaps they isolated her so she doesn't fall further than she already has and can get her access. martha: we're hearing that the portland fire department is speaking right now. that's correct. let's listen to that. >> firefighters are pulling away some of that concrete wall and they will create a hole there. they have to pull that section of wall out and that will give them access to the patient. >> at this point we're not going to see this woman come out. this is to rel...

Going forward. we will continue to operate in the unstable environments. >>shepard: i don't trust anyone to do that. what the terrorists did, they put a bomb on the wall and they blew the wall out. well, we can blow the wall out. see if they change security. we didn't. now they murdered our ambassador. we don't seem to be learning from our mistakes. we did not learn in 2003 when 2001 came around, we did not learn about the first attack when they murdered the first ambassador overseas since 1979. it seems like we could be trying to do a little bit too much, doesn't it? maybe we are trying to do...

Crowley, former assistant state republic of affairs. i'm awfully glad you're here. among the questions that comes to mind, what are the security measures that are taken overseas for diplomats who are in hostile regions? >> it's an essential question. under the viviana convention the security at the consulates is primarily the host nation. they secure the compound from the wall out. then inside a typical embassy you'll have diplomatic security and you'll have marines. this was a u.s. consulate. i don't think there was a marine contingent there. there were diplomatic security there. but alex, it...

And you assume they went to this theater on a date. he lost his wallet. somebody put it in lost and found and they never called you. how did they find it? >> they were tearing apart a wall that used to be an original office. and there was a wall only about two inches away from the safe. and when they tore that wall out, there was a wallet. i mean, it looks brand new. >> yeah. >> it's been like an in a time capsule. david, i understand you've got the wallet right there with you. >> i do. >> but five pictures inside and it's -- it was like a look at your parents as you had never seen them before...