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Scratcher, how she could call a wall immoral knowing that she has this wall separating tijuana and san diego in her own state. do you think the president will call for a national emergency during the state of the union on tuesday night? should he do that? >> i don't know if he will then. i do think as he said just the other day, he is seriously consider considering that. that'll be the president's call. what i know is the president is committed to securing the southern border, committed to building a border security wall. that's what he told the american people he was going to do, that's why t...

Will be no money for any wall anywhere. there will be a dollar, not more than that, because a wall is immoral. but, in fact, isn't there a growing group of colleagues on the left, your colleagues, that say exactly what you just said, which is practical, that there should be money for everything including in areas where it makes sense a physical barrier? but the speaker has said other side. she said no wall. under any circumstances. even though there's a wall in her state. >> well, but she did -- she did indicate a willingness to support infrastructure. and i know in the past she has said where...

Ocasio-cortez is calling to cut funding for dhs. you know that. >> again, i think it underscores the radical position today's left has taken; abolish i.c.e., cut funding, walls are immoral. if walls are immoral, speaker pelosi, where's the legislation that you've introduced to take down the wall between tijuana and san diego? i don't see legislation from democrats to do that, so it must work there but, oh, no, it can't happen anywhere else. and as i said, the democrat response to the state of the union is the gubernatorial candidate from georgia who said just a few weeks ago she thinks it's ok...

Strategic approach, and i wish we had a sense of what the end game looked like. we'll see. maria: yeah. congressman, thanks so much. good to have you on the program in the morning. >> thank you, maria. martha: congressman kildee. i want to bring in kansas republican senator jerry moran, a member of the senate appropriations banking and commerce committee. senator, it's good to have you this morning. your reaction to what you just heard in terms of border wall funding. you're on the appropriations committee. can you give us a realistic sense of whether or not the money is there to build this wa...

Walls or fencing, we have supported that in the past. let's remind ourselves that the position the president carved out initially was the result of a chant at a rally. a wall from sea to shining sea paid for by mexico. so even he does not believe what he once believed on this. so i don't think anyone can paint themselves as having pure positions on this that are unchangeable. maria: yeah. >> and i just think we ought to try to figure out a way to get to the middle. maria: congressman, i want to take a short break. when we come back, i've got to get your take on some of these new ideas on taxes...