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But we do know that it works. i'm glad we are at least making some progress. obviously not enough. we have a pretty good sense along the el paso border with mexico. it turned el paso from one of the worst cities in america to one of the best cities. >> harris: what do you see that you hope sending the national guard, building a wall system that will include assuring up a number of -- what do you see that cutting into ins the border? i know drugs, but we have a lot of other stuff going on at the border. >> human trafficking, trafficking. we are the number two state in the nation for human traff...

Is ridiculous considering it's an international space that we have to protect. >> harris: katie, can you talk about that border crossing though? because you and i have been down there. it's very porous, guys. >> yeah. >> harris: there is place for a wall or wall apparatus or wall system there. particularly in nogales. it's hard to watch that happening with people who live close down there and want to feel protected and not have this -- the extra forces, if you will, for the border patrol. >> katie: the interesting thing about the timing of george w. bush extend sending the national guard in 20...

>> sean: it's like clinton saying, we were alone but i never thought we were alone. >> that's hilarious. [laughter] >> you two love talking to each other. >> jessica, let me make this point. in your apartment, do you have a wall system? no, you have a wall. you keep people from coming in. you don't let people come in -- >> got to keep the boyfriend out of the living room. >> the boyfriend knocks, you open it up, you let him in. o you don't let in a stranger -- >> i get this on twitter all the time. how many illegals do you have in your apartment? >> maybe we should send the caravan to your hou...

The deporter in chief, i don't know why you guys don't love him. >> sean: deporter in chief? >> that was his nickname. >> 300,000 is not a low-level. >> lowest level since 1971. >> sean: i've been to the drug houses, i've been there -- >> that sounds scary. >> sean: if someone wants to come across because they want a job, so can a terrorist that wants to destroy an american city.. >> how often is that what is actually happening? >> sean: why are you willing -- >> you are acting as if the borders are completely open. it's a complete fallacy. >> the border patrol wants a wall. i thought the demo...

Alfonso, tell me this. i mentioned this with jennifer, why is this such a big deal with this particular president, when others have done it and we know we have a problem on our border? >> the democrats love to criticize president trump over specifically immigration. i think this is a great idea. the president is right that the border is not under operational control. it is not fully controlled. there are areas that are, frankly, totally out of control. the rio grande valley in texas, where most apprehensions actually happen. i think in the absence of the ability to expand fencing and build a w...