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Computers, to beat computer passwords and steal classified material. the trump justice department has now added to that indictment and now going after assange for publishing that material. and that is not just a danger to assange's freedom, it is a direct danger to every single actual journalist and journalistic outlet. the question is pretty simple. will donald trump's fixer bill cram b barr eventually please the boss? joining me now joyce vance, walter dellinger, and david corn. i have both journalists here at the table, both are in the position of often saying things the administration does...

Happening. this all signaled to moscow that trump didn't mind. we're not talking about that. we're talking about obstruction issues, issues about turning things over, and bill barr is out there saying no, the real thing is how this investigation began. not what it produced, but how it began. so i think trump and the republicans have turned circles around the democrats and have turned this whole story upside down and it's become a process story. we're fighting over who is going to testify where and -- >> mimi, walter dellinger had a piece, i think it was in "the washington post" this week, alon...

Prevents us from talking about what is central to this investigation, what is in that two-volume report. >> 100%. and i agree with david 100%. i agree with walter dellinger. i'll add on to that that we're not even talking about the important obstructive conduct we should be talking about which is in the mueller report. we're not even talking about volume two which is the president of the united states engaging in conduct that it would be a strong case that any prosecutor would have a pretty easy time winning in front of a jury. it is serious blatantly obstructive conduct. mueller didn't take i...

Gather evidence, need to hear from bob mueller. they need to get the entirety of the report and then make a reasoned decision whether or not they're going to go forward with the impeachment process. >> joining us now two democratic members of congress who represent the big three. the big three investigative committees in the house of representatives. congressman raja krishnamoorthi of illinois is a house of the oversight committee and jamie raskin of maryland is a member of the house oversight committee and the house judiciary committee. thank you very much for joining us tonight. you -- i h...

It wasn't explicit but he wasn't able to get the facts that you see mueller have elsewhere so detailed in the report. >> walter dellinger, this conversation, the voice mail and the conversation from john dowd from the president's personal lawyer strike me as a disbarable material for an attorney. it appears to be the special counsel reported it in the context of the obstruction of justice mosaic that he assembled involving the president and now the president's lawyer. but what do you make of robert mueller's decision not to attempt to interview the president's personal lawyer on the grounds of...