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And one that's as informative as it is instructive about why tillerson ended up being the pick. we've all covered this very closely. we knew all the players in the game. rex tillerson was not one of them until a couple weeks ago. and here's the reason why. they simply had not found the right candidate. and because of that according to transition officials, a call was placed by vice president-elect mike pence to steven hadley and condoleezza rice. steven hadley, former national security adviser to george w. bush. condoleezza rice obviously his secretary of state. he was looking for other ideas....

Responsibility is to champion exxon mobil. he's going champion america now. >> all over d.c. people are lining up. james baker and continued lisa rice who called him an excellent choice with broad international conspiracy and former defense secretary robert gates who sites his great integrity. in fact those three power players actually suggested tillerson to trump. they also worked with tillerson and exxon at paid consultants. it is that sort of coziness and the oil giant's vast economic influence that concerns crit iics, especially the boss's deep ties to russia. >> anybody who's a friend of ...

Nominated, pruitt, who is hostile to the epa and does not believe in the epa's mission, if you combine those three together i think we should be very concerned about whether the united states will have an agrefls position on climate change. >> tillerson has said in the past that he actually believes -- >> it's a nice thing compared to donald trump who denies it and rick perry who denies it that he actually acknowledges. but it's about the conduct of his company, which did not reflect that. >> margaret. >> first of all, i think it's really important to know that the reason that he was a friend ...

Change. >> tillerson has said in the past he actually believes -- >> nice compared to donald trump who denies and rick perry who denies it. but it is about the conduct of his company which did not reflect anyway. >> first of all i think it is really important to note that the reason he was a friend of russia, right, is that he brought an enormous amount of capital investment to russia. he as the ceo of exxon mobil had leverage over putin in these negotiations. putin wanted exxon to come. and he has personal relationships with every head of state on the planet where they are doing significant b...

And obviously condoleezza rice was very involved in the iraq war. so it's interesting that he looked to these people for advice. i think that -- i agree that we sort of have to wait and see for the hearings. but one of the issues i think to be concerned about with both trump and tillerson is they see everything through an economic lens. so for them it's about making deals with businesses. but that's not really what diplomacy is. diplomacy often governments will work against their economic interests if they have a national interest that overrides it. so for example, if you go in and humiliate t...