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And there's perhaps the sense he's being purposefully vague to appear more unpredictable to raise fears in the west and ream state the fear voiced by the french president, that it's worth not humiliating russia to provide an exit ramp to this conflict. that it's important to look at the commentary around this as well. russia looking to bring that to bear and reinforce the sense it is willing to go to great lengths to win this conflict. >> and how is the nature of war fare changing as the battle moves from an urban fight to more open terrain? >> i mean, it seems the urban fight continues along ...

The war. they certainly don't. >> todd: that visual, wow. sanctions hitting the russian economy hard sparking fears putin could retaliate by unleashing cyber attacks on the u.s. and other countries. >> the sanctions are a form of what they call economic war fare, so they will respond with weapons they have at their disposal. i would be particularly wary of attacks on targets that might affect supply chain vulnerabilities. >> todd: analyst kara frederick joins us with her breakdown. you heard that cyber expert mention the supply chain wrchlt do you feel our supply chain is most vulnerable? >> w...

Needs to bolster the training in order to be able to effectively combat the russians. what i mean, have you mix of different types of war fare. you have wint sxer woodd and urban areas and tanks are moving in. i think the key here is training and small unit tactics to be able to sabotage, hit, attack and then retreat as needed. they have to go back to the oldest play in the book, which is unconventional type of operations, that is the key here, that comes down to training and to get that training, carley, they have to start to lean on the private sector issue the private sector, private milita...

Linkage, great power rusurgence links china and iran together. russia has not gotten to the table yet. russia continues to amass borders, you have economic and resource war fare going on by china, as well as surpassing of america in the south china sea with amount of naval fleets. we are seeing geopolitical land grab by many great powers and america has not done anything to answer the call. >> carley: without a doubt. biggest concern is putin and xi are trying to create a new world order where america and europe become the lesser power and it is wild to see this could be the start of that, let...

Transition from an open war fare and uncertainty. i wonder if you've spoken to about that idea that soon this will become gorilla war fare. a lot of them have not even held weapons before but things like mobilizing and getting to the extent. the other thing to note is that the men are expected to stay here and fight. on another really important front. i'm hearing from a lot of people about the crisis at the border. it is a catastrophe.