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Any president would want to see the full range of options. it's warming that secretary mattis and general mcmaster, the national security adviser heard out eric prince and promptly said no, we're not going to do that, we're not going to outsource our war fighting to private industry. i would have been worried a about the fabric of our country had we done that. >> an afghan war veteran, it's great to have you. >> absolutely.

That. we're not going to outsource our war fighting. i think that was a positive and i would have been very worried about the fabric of our country going forward. >> thank you for your time on that. afghan war veteran, contributing editor at "the atlantic" magazine, good to have you. >> thank you. joining me now is former secretary of defense who spent considerable time in afghanistan in that role. mr. carter, thank you very much for being with us. i'm glad to have you here. >> thanks, rachel. >> let me ask you the same first question. your top line reaction to what the president said tonigh...

Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. any president would want to see the full range of options. it's warming that secretary mattis and general mcmaster, the national security adviser heard out eric prince and promptly said no, we're not going to do that, we're not going to outsource our war fighting to private industry. i would have been worried a about the fabric of our country had we done that. >> an afghan war veteran, it's great to have you. >> absolutely.

Stronger, the afghans will do their part to take on this fight. the common threat of terrorism. we've heard from a pakistani opposition parliamentarian, not from the government itself, responding to what president trump said, more pressure required on pakistan to get them to stop harboring terrorists. and the opposition politicians said tip kelly the united states is blaming pakistan again for its failed and flawed policies in afghanistan. perhaps that statement's not unsurprising. i think in the few details we have there, there are some interesting points. president trump says that there may ...

>> the point is -- >> tucker: what's the point? i'm losing fact of the point. >> the pointed is when you have a blanket ban that takes out qualified men and women who are otherwise able to serve, paced on a characteristic that hassing in to do with their ability to serve this country, that hurts. >> tucker: like age? >> i don't really think your argument has principle here. let me ask you this question and it's sincere. nothing against transgender people. why should military be on the hook for sex change surgery? why is that germane to like war-fighting? why should taxpayers have to pay for th...