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The -- korea on the same trip. people say nixon went to china. that was very different. it was a master stroke by a life-long anti-communist. we gain nothing by dip make it relations or an obama visit to iran. it's a giveaway getting nothing in return. trace: where do you think iran is in the building of a nuclear weapon. >> i think if they made the decision today they could have a weapon in a coup months. i think they want like to war head that could reach the united states. that would be jolly wouldn't

>> i read the war head, explosives detected ton united states aircraft to riddle it with shrapnel. this plenty never had a chance, did it? >> anyone who is in a commercial airliner i would say probably did not have have a chance against. this again, this something that i trained against the sa-11. upgraded version of the sa-6. what i was trained to do in my cockpit is there is information coming in that tells me if a radar is painting me. information telling me if a radar is actually tracking me i'm going to try to break that radar lock. there is defensive maneuvers can i do. can i do last dit...

So. this is -- this is graduate level work. and these kids were not amateurs. >> so the russians at least, you know, my belief is that the russians were in up to their eyeballs. >> no question. >> the rocket didn't just hit the plane. the rocket goes in the direction it has a war head. >> yeah. >> and texas plodz near the plane, right? >> it has a proximity war head. 160 pounds of explosive material that has a proximity feuds on it and so when the missile seeks that it's -- senses it's near a large piece of metal, it explodes near the target and that blast raid and fragmentation for the war he...

So. this is -- this is graduate level work. and these kids were not amateurs. >> so the russians at least, you know, my belief is that the russians were in up to their eyeballs. >> no question. >> the rocket didn't just hit the plane. the rocket goes in the direction it has a war head. >> yeah. >> and texas plodz near the plane, right? >> it has a proximity war head. 160 pounds of explosive material that has a proximity feuds on it and so when the missile seeks that it's -- senses it's near a large piece of metal, it explodes near the target and that blast raid and fragmentation for the war he...

Improved of the sa-6 and that is what gave the israeli fits in the 1980's. it is a track launcher. it has a wrack of four missiles. it moves at mock three so there is no way the pilots saw the missile coming at them and it has a 170-pound war head. most russian missiles have huge war heads and the blast effect of that would have broken the airplane apart in flight and completely destroyed the airplane the moment that the detonation went off. the course for the american version of this as a patriot the basic course for that is 26 weeks. >> 26 weeks of training?